A lot of people are going to say that Marie Yovanovitch is a sympathetic figure because it’s just the easiest way to show you support a woman. Why don’t you think Schiff isn’t going to let a woman question her? So Mrs. Stefanik, the Republican woman congresswoman, wants to ask her some questions. “Nunes can’t allocate any of his time to you.”
She doesn’t want another woman asking her questions because there goes the whole idea that there might be some sexism here. Because if Trump is involved, there has to be, right? Now, you might not think this is any big deal. I am an etymologist. I am a student of words. I am a student of the usage of words and how they are selectively used to manipulate the emotions of people.
It’s very easily done, very easy to do, and it is being done here. By declaring that she is a sympathetic figure, you’re automatically conferring upon her total credibility and honesty without examining what she’s saying. You’re giving her a pass by calling her a sympathetic figure. By saying she’s a sympathetic figure, you can’t challenge her. She gets a free pass. She’s a sympathetic figure. And yet, ladies and gentlemen, she was let go in May, two months before the phone call the whistle-blower lied about, two months before the phone call Schiff lied about.
She doesn’t know about the phone call. She doesn’t know about the Javelins. She doesn’t know about Trump. She’s never spoken to Trump. She’s never spoken to Mick Mulvaney. She doesn’t know anything other than Rudy Giuliani is some rogue, outside-the-channels guy.
May I read to you from a transcript? I have here the first call with Trump. Zelensky, the new elected president about whom people are raving. He’s not corrupt like his predecessor. Zelensky said he agreed with the decision to recall ambassador Yovanovitch 100%.
Trump had told Zelensky, “Yeah, the former ambassador from the United States, the woman, she was bad news. People she was dealing with in Ukraine were bad news, so I just want to let you know that.” Zelensky responded by asking the president, quote, “I would kindly ask you if you have any additional information that you can provide to us. It would be very helpful for the investigation to make sure that we administer justice in our country with regard to the ambassador to the United States from Ukraine…”
He went on to say, “I recall her name was Yovanovitch. It was great that you were the first one who told me that she was a bad ambassador because I agree with you 100%. Her attitude towards me was far from the best as she admired the previous president and she was on his side. She would not accept me as the new president…” Okay, this is not going to be brought out today by Schiff.
But Trump’s and our new ally in Ukraine — a new elected president, who had nothing to do with investigating Trump and trying to deny him the victory in 2016 — claimed that Ambassador Yovanovitch was not on his side, that Ambassador Yovanovitch preferred the previous corrupt president who had just been defeated in an election. He’s telling Trump that he’s glad to hear that Trump is going to move her out of the position because she was not being helpful to him. Well, it sounds to me like we had a rogue ambassador then.
We had a rogue ambassador who was trying to undermine the newly elected president of Ukraine, at least this is what he said to Trump on the phone call, and nobody yet is accusing the new president of Ukraine of committing an impeachable offense. I’ve got the transcript right here. He said, “I recall her name was Yovanovitch. It was great that you were the first one who told me that she was a bad ambassador because I agree with you 100%.”
In other words, Trump, without even knowing what this president thought, acknowledged that Yovanovitch might not be the right woman for the job, is going to get rid of her. This guy says, “I’m glad you said that. Her attitude toward me was far from the best. She admired the previous president. She was on his side. She would not accept me as new president.” Wait a minute, now. See, I thought ambassadors, I thought really great diplomats… Is it her business who the Ukrainian people elect?
So, she doesn’t like the new president so she’s sitting around maybe being an obstacle that the new president has to go through in dealings with the United States. And Trump doesn’t want any obstacles. He wants to make deals with this new guy. It is a new day. It’s a new Ukraine. It’s a new relationship.
He’s got an ambassador here who is unsympathetic and unsupportive of the new duly elected. She’s loyal to the guy who was defeated, the corrupt guy. So Trump says, “Okay, well, she’s gone.” Now we’re in an impeachment hearing here over what? She lost her job.
Again, the Republican counsel right before this hour started (paraphrasing), “Were the Javelins very important?”
“Oh, yes, the Javelins were crucial, very important for Ukraine to be able to defend itself.”
“Can you explain why the Obama administration did not provide them?”
“Uhhh, well, I think at that time the, uhhh, the decision…”
“But then the Trump administration ended up providing them?”
“Yeah, yeah. Caught again. Damn it!” (“Where are the Democrats helping me out here?” she’s saying to herself.) So I’m sorry, if I’m supposed to see her as a sympathetic figure, I don’t. If you want me to tell you she looks honest and sweet and harmless and, fine, I’ll go along with that. But sympathetic means something very specific.
It means somebody is doing her dirty. It means somebody is mistreating her. It means somebody is trying to get away with hurting her really badly and it’s making us feel very sorry for her. Well, I’m sorry. I don’t feel a lot of sympathy for this cabal that’s attempting to overturn the election in 2016. String me up.
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